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Luso
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Exactly, Broaz Mauda should have been the winner, great song and an amazing voice. Israel had the complete package last year. They also had a good entry in 2005 with Shiri Maimon, but that year Greece was unbeatable.
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dima_gresc
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I agree with you on Dima Bilan.His 2006 entry was so much better."Believe" was an undeserving winner...In 2008 i would prefer to see my favourite entry winning which was Israel...Amazing entry...
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Luso
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I am realistic, the best voices don't always win. However, I prefer to watch and to listen to to a balanced act, which mixes good music, good vocals and an effective stage presentation. Oh, and I didn't want to imply that people voted for Kalomira because she was a nice person - I agree that the song was catchy (a bit repetitive, though) and that she was a shinning presence, but that was not enough (it should never be enough). Now that that's out of the way, let me tell you that would have prefered a Kalomira win to the song that won in 2008 (he was much better in 2005), but that's another story...
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dima_gresc
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Of course you wouldn't vote sne just for being a nice person...you singled out one phrase..i also said that her song was really catchy,very well presented and kalomira was shining on stage...Surely you don't think that the best voices win... singing in greek is nice but risky...this year top 10:7 songs in english,1 in french and only 2 in their own language...i wouldn't have any problem though...
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Luso
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...and singing in Greek; I enjoy the way it sounds, even if I don't understand it.
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Luso
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For me, the most important thing is that both of us enjoy good songs like the ones you mentioned as your favoutite entries, Dima_gresc. I am sure that Kalomira is a nice person, but I am not voting with that purpose in mind. I am longing to see Greece well represented once again.
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dima_gresc
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Luso my favorite entries were France,Estonia Norway and Iceland.Israel was nice too.That being said,i think that both Greece and Turkey were better than Germany and Andorra that you found good...Greece 2008 was fun and Kalomira may not be the best singer but she was nice and people loved her and her catchy song...
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Luso
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Dima_Gresc, I don't have a musical background, but I didn't like the Greek and Turkish entries either (especially Greece's as I said earlier). The UK jury didn't vote for This is Our Night, but I do not agree with Turkey being given higher points than France, Armenia and Bosnia, songs that required good vocal skills and that had singers who were up to the job, unlike Turkey's. That being said, I also would like to say that Greece has been sending feeble songs for the last two years (08 and 09). This is not a dance contest, it is a song contest. I am OK with elaborate choreographies on stage, as long as people really sing - Kalomira and Rouvas are not singers, for me, although I agree that they are very professional at what they do.
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dima_gresc
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i meant Greece and Turkey...
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dima_gresc
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actually gb6 Greece last year had 218 pts so it's highly possible that the uk televoters as well as greeks living in the UK voted for it...
Claudio i'm glad you are so modest claiming to have real musical understanding.However the fact remains that both Greece and Cyprus were in the top-10 of the jury too...that should tell you something...
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Claudio
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Diaspora voting has these things...it's the only way to explain how Greece and Turkey did so well...a person with real musical understanding would not give them a single point.
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Die_4_u
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Germany took 7 points overall without even getting one point from the public...is this fair?? without taking not even ONE SINGLE POINT from the public??
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Die_4_u
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MY GOD!! THE PROFESSIONAL JURY GAVE 5 POINTS TO UKRAINE AND ZERO POINTS TO GREECE??
Is this a professional jury??and 12 points to Germany??
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wallace530
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I am behind you.
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WillT
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well i think the big Turkish and Greek communities tend to vote more than once for their country of origin whilst the average UK viewer votes once for their favourite. I voted for Greece in 2008, it was great, but Turkey and Greece barely deserved to be in the final in 2009 sorry!
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gb_6
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Juan -- it's more than just that, the general British population probably doesn't care enough to vote. So only the immigrant groups from places where Eurovision is popular will call to vote.
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Juan
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Greeks and Turkish... with big communities in the UK. that's why the televote is like that
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gb_6
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Is anyone in the UK, other than the immigrant groups, picking up the phone to vote? For the past 3 years now, Greece and Turkey have gotten the top marks from the UK televote. It's just too coincidental.
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Luso
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Thanks BBC for the complete results. The results differ from jury to televote, which isn't surprising. I think the first 4 of the jury vote are understandable (Germany's song was good in spite of the ghastly stage presentation). But placing Ukraine higher than France and Bosnia is beyond belief. The televote went for Turkey and Greece, two below than average entries (especially Greece's, very poor indeed); I guess the British audience likes to dum tek tek... However, the 8 points to Lithuania reassured me that good taste exists too. Thanks for the lonely point guys.
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